I received a phone call at about 5pm Central time today from a Detective Thornton of the Boston Police Department. He told me that a woman named Jennifer George had come into the precinct in the past few days and filed a police report claiming that she had received death threats, telling her that she’d be dead before sundown and that she should watch out for her family. (Recently threats were made against bloggers Patterico and Ace from Ace of Spades HQ that used similar language. )
Detective Thornton told me that there’s a written report based on what Ms. George said that those threats were made by a specific person who she named — Lee Stranahan. I categorically and completely deny that any threats were made by me. I believe that Ms. George’s police report is provably false.
Detective Thornton is not the one who took the initial police report but followed up by visiting Ms. George at her residence. In that interview, she claimed that the police officer who took her report had written it down wrong and that it was not, in fact, me who had threatened her but one of ‘my followers’.
I have spoken on the phone with a woman who said their name was Jennifer George, one week ago. Ms. George told me and another reporter that she was the woman who started an account on Twitter under the name @Starchild111. This account was later used, under the name Nikki Reid, who claimed to be a 16 year high school student. Reid began online relationships with Rep. Anthony Weiner and at least three women connected to him; Gennette Cordova, Ginger Lee and an underage girl in Delaware who has been confirmed to exist. After the person claiming to be Nikki Reid became the source for an article by Tommy Christopher, it turned out that a woman claiming to be Nikki Reid’s mother had supplied fake IDs to Christopher and it was later discovered that the photo Nikki Reid was using as her avatar was taken in 2006 and was found on Flickr.
Jennifer George has repeatedly claimed to me and another reporter that she has nothing to do with the Nikki Reid fraud. However, Ms. George also lied to me about where she lived (she claimed to be in California; we now know she was in Boston), and other details.
I have, however, confirmed that she studied screenwriting with a well-known instructor. I spoke to that instructor and his wife on Friday, who confirmed that they knew Jennifer George. The instructor also described her as ‘very liberal’.
If any reporters want details on the identities of the people I’ve spoken with but have not named, they can contact me at 505 306-9678.
Everyone else – don’t harass people. Please? Thanks!
She’s gone on some kind of offensive, I see. Is the detective necessarily himself real? You called the police station directly, not just some number or contact information he gave you?
She’s gone on some kind of offensive, I see. Is the detective necessarily himself real? You called the police station directly, not just some number or contact information he gave you?
And is this Jennifer George, by any chance, another person with a similar name, or the one you have spoken to, or would you have anyway of knowing?
Lee is Alicia Pain I KNEW IT. s/
If it is student Jenny, and the report is not altogether fabricated (including the detective), then I think it’s almost over, as she is in full swing covering tracts . O perhaps the person you spoke to in the first place was never Jenny the Student, but someone only claiming to be.
Valid Point Lee can you confirm it was a police detective?
Awesome the more LEO get involved the sooner this will get solved for real. No more speculation now that there are charges that have to be investigated. When the charge again Lee turn out to be false then the investigation turns to Jennifer George. I might be wish casting but this feels like the flickering flame of question has finally hit the fuse.
Wow, this story just has more twists and turns. So which Jennie George is making this report, the one that called you or the other one?
Joe
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I it’s a real detective and a real report, a false report is a serious crime, a class 1 misdemeanor most places. A bridge too far if this is REALLY student Jenny and no one had appropriated her identity talking to you.
IF its a real detective. Sorry, my F key is unreliable.
I hope it’s not that poor girl with the cute kitty video blog
Covering tracts = tracks.
FINALLY, this could be the nudge that trips the switch. Some random cop or prosecutor will be cool enough to use the false report as a basis for a subpoena, finally do the ‘legwork’ we and Lee need done and put us out all of our misery.
Either way it’s illegal impersonating a police officer is illegal as well. Unless someone else identified themselves as Lee Stranahan and threatened Jennifer George, then it’s a legitimate complaint. The real question is did the threat maker also say he was sent by Breitbart. Just so we can go full circle on the crazy train.
That one’s 40 something. I hope it’s not some unconnected person with a JG name.
First I want to Lee to acknowledge that he called the station independently, using public information, and did not rely on any contact information given him by the officer or any email or phone conversation.
Because fake dectectives have bindun.
Lee are you going on the record saying Jenny George is the person you were looking into as the Reid sock puppets? As far as I remember it was just someone named Jenny before. Are you saying they are one in the same or is this a whole new Jenny that’s now involved?
Johnny 5 - Correction. The “Koch Brothers Funded Breitbart”.
Good god, this story is crazy. Good luck turning the tables on this loon - hopefully the police will see thru her story quickly.
@ Sarah W
He said he has confirmed it.
http://twitter.com/#!/Stranahan
Stranahan Lee Stranahan
I confirmed it was an actual detective. I phone the station and the number matches publicly available information. @HBadgerDGAS
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It’s was the Jennifer George not related to the starchild111 account.
@ Kaisersoze
Damn, good point. I left out the most important part the evil master minds who are going to take of the woooooorld. *evil laugh*
Reading Jennifer George’s timeline, she’s feeling seriously harassed. I can’t say I blame her - how many times and how many ways can she say, “It’s not me!”
I tried to determine how common a name Jennifer George is, and decided that no one really likes statistics that much. It’s common. Very, very common.
Would someone have sent her a threat? And somehow claimed it was Lee Stranahan? I don’t believe LS sent her a threat.
The one thing the hard-core Left hates worse than someone who has always been on the other side is one of their own that turns Judas in their eyes.
“Would someone have sent her a threat? And somehow claimed it was Lee Stranahan?”
Given that the guilt-by-association attack on AB failed, it’s a reasonable possibility to consider.
Wood - Im pretty sure the JG with the website is NOT the JG that complained about Lee.
“As for her allegations of death threats by Lee, she is adamant on her site to NOT talk on the phone and to ONLY communicate in a way that is able to be recorded. Are we to believe that she broke her own rules and then Lee threatened her?”
Good point Wood.
Bret, you know, the puppetmisstress could easily threaten a random JG and claim that she (the puppetmisstress) is Lee. Just thinking out loud, based on your observation. It would be easy to do and would throw another monkey wrench into the works.
“Lee said again that the JG is NOT the one in CA” Hmm, If so, my apologies.
After reading all this extra info it looks to me like Lee doesn’t think the Jennifer George with the web site is the Jenny he’s looking for. He said as much in one of his tweets didn’t he?
You are right Johnny 5. My mistake. But Ca. JG sure seems pissed off.
Johnny 5 and Julian, duly noted about JG in Ca. with the website.
It’s NOT the JG in CA. She can be pissed off — StlActivistHub posted her real name. Prior to that, she has been contacted by the NYT.
It’s the woman I spoke to on the phone.
Here’s what I don’t get they all say they aren’t really that interested in the story for differing reasons but then they slip up and talk about how they’ve been following the story. Then they insert themselves into the story. For someone who isn’t following the story she knew exactly at what time Lee mentioned ‘inconsistencies’ on his blog talk radio show.
If what she showed is the beginning and end of emails and conversation it sure seems like she making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Yet another person suddenly involved in the story that comes out of no where and screams don’t look at me, don’t look at me…while I do things that draw attention to me. I don’t think ‘she’s the one’ but this is starting to become a theme in this saga. It’s like in the movie the Thomas Crown Affair where suddenly everyone in the museum is wearing a bowler hat and matching suits to camouflage the real culprit.
Well, she’s done it now, lee. The would be dramatist is going to have a nice long spate of community service at the end of it, (unless someone stole her identity)
I know it’s not the JG in CA but where is the threat from “Lee?”
If she doesn’t talk to anyone without it being in a written format how come that isn’t posted on her blog? All these death threat emails should point back to someone. They’re starting to pile up.
“claiming that she had received death threats, telling her that she’d be dead before sundown”
obviously the police office did not believe the threats if it took him a few days to call Lee. which means the office had reason to believe this woman was not reasonable or stable or something like that. filing a false police report is a continued slide into bad decisions of this puppetmaster.
Johnny 5 - “If she doesn’t talk to anyone without it being in a written format”
Its not that Jenny.
@ Bret
I know or at least I think I know. The JG in CA is the one with the web site that people have posted links to in this thread correct? If it is, in her emails with Preston from the NYT and Lee she states she doesn’t talk on the phone. So no one can mischaracterize what she was saying by telephone. All correspondence she has have to be done so they can be copied and shown to the world. Which is what she was doing with this issue in her blog. That’s why I’m wondering why she doesn’t have the threat posted if it’s been a couple of days since the threat was made. Unless someone tracked down her phone number. I guess that’s possible too.
It would be interesting to start putting all the threats together to see how similar they are.
Why would JG in CA have the threat posted on her blog, when its not the JG in CA that is alleging the threat? The girl with the written word rule is not connected to this other than by happenstance of having the same name as Lee’s accuser.
Johnny 5, it’s not the JG in CA ( as i assumed). My apologies. It seems to be the one on the east coast that had called Lee. The phone she used had the number blocked and Lee didn’t have an email address for her so there was no way for him to contact her again to make a threat unless she saying he threatened her when she called him. Very hard to keep things straight on this story.
She sounds like she need some help!!!
Julian is right.
She needs some help. She’s the woman I spoke to on the phone.
@ Bret
Thanks for clarifying that, I was totally confused. So why did anyone bring up JG in CA? So the same Jenny that Lee has been talking about all along from the east coast is the one who filed the death threat charge? That’s awesome!
I think just confusion about the names. The JG from CA is much more accessible to observers because she has the website and twitter account. But all the action and speculation (from Lee at least) has been on the other JG.
@ julian
No worries it all makes sense now. I couldn’t figure out why the JG in CA would suddenly be getting death threats when she wasn’t involved but so much of this story is confusing that I just figure it was par for the course. Thanks for clarifying though.
“So why did anyone bring up JG in CA?” I brought it up because I assumed it was her. Apologies to Jeniffer George in Ca, Lee and Patterico. My mistake!
Thanks for clearing that up, Lee.
“one of ‘my followers’ ”
Everybody run, its the cult of Stranahan.
Wouldn’t it be very convenient for this JG (in MA) to say she’s in CA and goes to UCLA if a quick google search told her that such a person does exist? This is purely conjecture on my part but it would make sense if she googled her own name, found the JG in CA and used details that she knew might lead people to that woman.
That wouldn’t be much of a plan by the JG who called Lee. It was too easy to figure out that is a dead end. Could figure that out without contacting the person.
Regarding JG from MA and the cops.
I just don’t get why a supposed criminal goes to the cops.
Either 1) it’s a total breakdown (she is a criminal, there was no threat, and wants to be caught), 2) she’s crazier than anyone thinks (she is criminal, there was no threat, & has true multiple personalities, one of which believes she is being persecuted, perhaps the reason for all this?), or 3) she’s NOT a criminal (and a sick “follower” of this story DID deliver a threat to her). That third one would be very sad indeed. If she were telling the truth in her call to Lee and she were telling the truth in her report to the cops. Just horrible.
But, if 4) she’s the criminal AND she received a sick threat from some really bad follower (someone who comments here?), why does she call the cops and risk exposure? This must have been some kind of threat.
(I will trust Patrick’s preliminary assessment that the cop report thing legitimately happened.)
@ koam
Perhaps in a sick mind the very thought of being exposed as the sock puppet master feels like a very real threat. Someone who is this prone to making up fake people could easily add in the her own dialogue to what Lee has actually said.
How would any of Lee’s “follower” even know how to contact her. Lee doesn’t know how to contact her. She contacted him and her number was blocked.
Lastly is the point made early that the police didn’t speak with Lee until days later. They, the police didn’t think JG was credible in her complaint. It sounds like she changed her story when speaking to the second police officer. Police are well versed in dealing with head cases they run into them far more frequently than the average citizen. She didn’t pass their smell test.
Lee: I’m not sure I heard you correctly yesterday.
Did you actively contact the Detective?
I know you compared his contact information with publicly available contact information, and that checked to be genuine; but -
I an unclear on the point of whether you used it.
Did you contact the officer using that information? Or have all of the contacts been at the detective’s instigation?
@ Sarah W
He said he has confirmed it.
http://twitter.com/#!/Stranahan
Stranahan Lee Stranahan
I confirmed it was an actual detective. I phone the station and the number matches publicly available information. @HBadgerDGAS
I asked something different, or at least more specific. Did he call the station and SPEAK TO THE DETECTIVE.
Sorry to be such a parser, but there are sockles everywhere.
Assuming Lee did call, and as a result of that or other calls to the station number, speak to a detective …
First impression (noted over at Patterico’s blog)
-She’s an awful liar who tends to walk it back right away when cornered.
Did she really get misreported? Or did she go too far and realize it, and helpfully “clarify” the next day?
She’s an awful liar who tends to walk it back right away when cornered.
Yeah. That’s the only way I can interpret it. She was trying to screw Lee, and backed down as soon as she was cornered. In my mind, this is probably the same person who backed down when Ace called her on her threats.
Even if by some miracle it is not, it’s the same nasty and blame avoiding attitude. But mostly nasty. That detective didn’t call Lee on accident. And it’s just not possible to be that confused about who threatened you.
I mean, she must have figured out a false report, that Lee could prove false, would get her convicted of a class 1 misdemeanor -
in serious cases (or cases where other bad acts have occurred) there can be jail time, and at minimum some sort of community service ordered, as when a judge takes the case under advisement with an eye to dismissing it once service is completed. And if there is a permanent guilty verdict, she will have that to contend with that black mark for a long time.
- a lot on the line unless she could wriggle out of it.
Whoops, very bad cut and past there. I included text from another’s post
This part:
She’s an awful liar who tends to walk it back right away when cornered.
Yeah. That’s the only way I can interpret it. She was trying to screw Lee, and backed down as soon as she was cornered. In my mind, this is probably the same person who backed down when Ace called her on her threats.
Even if by some miracle it is not, it’s the same nasty and blame avoiding attitude. But mostly nasty. That detective didn’t call Lee on accident. And it’s just not possible to be that confused about who threatened you.
I mean, she must have figured out a false report, that Lee could prove false, would get her convicted of a class 1 misdemeanor -
I said weeks ago, on these pages, that this is “Sleuth”
https://leestranahan.com/timing-weinergate-nikki-reid#comment-5750
And if the Detective turns out to be not a detective, but a principal in the original event…then it is IS “Sleuth”
It does not sound like a false police report but perhaps simple misunderstanding by the officer that took Jenny ‘s statement and missed the Lee Stranahan vs a blog follower. If you read enough police reports, you see this type of thing all the time.
Perhapes the Lee Stranahan vs a Stranahan follower is just a typo in the report. The real issue is to get this Jenny George to provide a timeline as to her use of the Starchild111 twitter account. the gap betweens August and January and how it migh tbe possible for someone else to social engineer access to the account.
The question that sticks in my mind is the timing of the Ried’s communications with Tommy vs the Rep. Weiner package tweek to Gennette on May 27th. I asked Gennette about when she last communicated with Rep. Weiner but got no response so we are now back to the Ethel angle and the Nikki timelines.
We know for a fact that Rep. Weiner sent the tweek to GC after the #Thats545inSeatlle and then there was a gap before the package tweet So was Rep. Weiner talking to Nikki, Ethel or someone other woman like Megan B during this time?
Since Gennette, claims the package shot was out of the blue, who was the real intended female target of the package picture of May 27? Why did Gennette start to delete her tracks and not just simply say “hey” wrong person. A quick interview with her crush Matt Lauer and then drop out like the other ladies that have come forward. Megan, Ginger and even Meagan B and even Lisa Weiss ( who had the longest sexting interaction with Weiner )>
The Reid’s are just a red herring in the actual course of the events of last month, sockpuppets or not!.
Joe
Joe, how would she know the person making threats was a “lee follower”?
Who and why would they make those threats Btw?